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Go away, far, far away…. For me, in a nutshell: Getting into a relationship is an adult thing to do. Breaking up requires the same care and emotional maturity. You have to be prepared for any outcome and handle people with care. Sam, you have certainly received lots of feedback.
Overlappers: When they start a new relationship just before your breakup
As for not doing things intentionally, yeah I can understand when my son says that after accidentally hitting the cuckoo clock with a tennis ball, but cheating? And feeling guilty is no excuse. As my mom always says, feeling guilty is the price you pay for doing whatever it is you want to do. Those two statements contridict each other.
I think you should read all the posts and read and see how the action of overlapping leaves people feeling. Like he was some sort of magnet for the other sexe. I really believe in our hearts, we KNOW this kind of explanation, read, excuse, is very very poor.
How can you not panic knowing that your ex is in someone else' arm? Will my ex-girlfriend or ex-boyfriend forget about me now that they have a new They sometimes force themselves to start dating again after the breakup in hopes that .. to try to convince your ex with logic that the rebound guy or girl is bad for them . So you made the decision to break up with your now ex-girlfriend, when we realize, “oh shit, I dumped my girlfriend and now I miss her! . That said, if she's back dating in the first week after the breakup hmm that's a bit of a red flag. But should you take her back after she's been with someone else?. If your ex girlfriend (fiance or wife) is already dating someone else after right breaking in a couple of months, or he might end up turning her off and getting dumped. .. Right now, she might seem to be really happy with the new guy and may.
Well Sam, you sure stirred things up. I understand what you are saying about your behavior being a form of self protection. I swear I hear a note of remorse or regret — or is it shame — over your own actions.
The most important thing is to always do what you think is right — even if no one else agrees with you. It is shortsighted and hurftful and disrespectful to everybody involved. No matter how great the other woman, no matter how much fun he thinks he has. How much they agreed with his behaviour. And ultimately for example ended up here, desperate for answers. And these are the answers his comment results in. I hope Sam listens carefully. I see him being ruthlessly torn apart.
He deserves to be understood and supported in a gentle manner just like everyone else here. I even agree with you.
Sam did not. On the contrary, he was excusing himself big time. And he is welcome to help ending the image many of us got from his comment. I do not feel the urge to be a Florence Nightingale to this man. It meant I had to start taking responsibility for my own stuff. Sometimes sympathy for the wrong thing is really more like enabling. I think Sam may have been looking for some truth here, not sympathy. That encourages me that deep down they want to change. Sam grow up please as I believe that what goes around comes around.
As an adult you have responsibilities towards yourself and anyone you are in a relationship with. Overlapping also known as cheating! My second husband met a woman on the internet and while pursuing a relationship with her kept me in the dark that there was even a problem in our relationship.
I had no clue until i started to feel the disconnection from him and thought i should investigate what was going on. He denied everything until one day, viola! I guess she got tired of him being married and she deceided to have her friend call me to let me know about their secret life. Needless to say I kicked him out, got a divorce, only to have him boomerang back when things were not so great for him. He knew what he had with me, but yet thought the grass was greener so he deceided to graze.
I am sure these patterns repeat themselves, so I have no doubt that she too will fall victim someday if she ever gets her head out of her ass. They have a child together now, she just recently let him move back in with her for the third time. He tells me they are trying for the kids sake. I say good luck to all who have been through something like this.
Its not easy, but some people cannot bear to be alone. I believe think that overlapping i. I am happy to be alone and at peace with who I am and I thank him for teaching many lessons about what love isnt about.
This is really hitting home for me right now. The ex-AC and I had a very sudden, unexpected breakup ie. Of course, when I confronted him, he flat out denied it. Well, he was cheating on me- my suspicions were confirmed by a reliable source. The thing that has me reeling is that he is back with his ex. Safe to say, I never saw this girl as a threat.
Was our relationship ending anyways and she just happened to be there? Or did he really choose her over me? Either way, I was definitely overlapped and it sucks. Piecing together our last week as a couple it becomes so clear he was seeing her then and doing his best to hide it from me. You are left wondering what was real and what was fake. That is such a common story. I hear it a lot. How awful. Two, more than once. I have to say it makes me uncomfortable about getting too close to either of them.
Even the one trying to change her behaviour, a journey I offered her a great deal of support with, because she again got involved with a MM despite her efforts. I always wonder, are these women people who would do such a thing to me? Just a little damaged or manipulative or low esteemish in that area I think. Teachable, I have to see the woman every day at work! The way it was told to me was a classic. Then he says, yes, she has met somebody else.
These people have a sense of their entitlement to behave as they please, without even paying lip service to common decency and good manners. But my life is fab. When I get room in my schedule, I might be bothered with another man — but then again….
You may need to look at using other things he wants from you as leverage. Again the legal advice will help. I strongly doubt he will be first ever hostile ex hubby refusing to sign divorce papers as a way of seeking revenge….
Yr obvious growth is jumping right off the screen! Yes, yes, yes. I lived this. It is precisely what I lived. I get to go it alone. Smack me again upside the head again for getting involved with a MM.
There is simply no way in hell to win with a MM. Two years later and it is the same answer…just SHIT.
I still have these moments of anger. Thank you Natalie for providing a safe place for my two years worth of anger. But I still want to smack his stupid head. Breathe Runner. His overlapp is stupid. His overlapp is called cheating!
Runnergirl, I picked up on the same paragraph. You want what you had to mean something…. Those words hit home big time. Today, I donated every single dollar to two organisations helping woman who have lost their babies. I sent him the receipts. I am far from wealthy,I had to leave my job because of stress and could have used the money, but I now feel as if I have respected myself.
I also want the relationship to have meant something and it did TO ME. I also still want to smack his stupid head and who knows maybe I have. And sent him the receipts, wow! I hope guilt is eating him up now, at least at some inner obscure neurotic level. Once I fell in like with someone when I had a bf. I decided to break up with the bf and not date the new crush. I felt it was disrespectful to do so. I have had it done to me a couple of times.
One guy was dating his neighbor while he was dating me and I was so blind I had no idea. One day he thanked me for being such a good friend to him and that was it. I never saw him again. It was his friend that told me after the fact about the other woman. I was like 26 so I chalk that one up to youth and inexperience. I never in my life felt so worthless.
It was like everything we had together was meaningless. I felt like a dirty napkin he tossed in the garbage after a satisfying meal. It took me a long time to get over that crap. I do have one example where I was glad it happened. My bf and best friend were actually dating behind my back. I knew it was happening and kept telling them to just come clean and tell me the truth and I would not be angry.
They never did. BUT, two weeks after he broke up with me they moved in together. She got pregnant shortly after and they were married. Why am I glad this happened? Because they guy was a total shovanist pig. She saved me. Besides, her karma for going behind my back is to have to deal with him for nearly the rest of her life — and trust me, he makes her life a living hell.
OMG, thank god theres someone out there who gets this! When I met him, I had very little experience in relationships, so I missed the red flag, when he asked me to be his gf, though he met me in several weeks after the 4 year relationship with nother woman has ended! And in two weeks or so he added a picture to his FB profile, where he stood with 2 girls.
One of them became pregnant with his baby in 3 or 4 months and now she is his wife. Of course, I was terribly hurt to realise he had an eye for another girl while he was still with me, and I felt bad months and months after that, and he was enjoying his new life. And if she knew he has another womanbut still was OK with that, well, they both deserve each other! I have a friend who is an over-lapper.
She told me she was afraid of being alone one night as she was having a break down. But then she met someone else and was finally able to leave the bad relationship. The abusive guy gets home with no clue that she had moved on to someone else, and he had a hard time understanding that it was over and why she had ignored his emails and calls when he was out of town she never was truthful with him, just tried to blow it off.
He made it difficult an kept trying to get answers from her, but she managed to convince the new guy that the old guy was just a crazy ex who kept coming back trying to win her over again. Lucky for her, the ex had quickly met someone else maybe not-so-lucky for that someone else as well and dropped her, although with hard feelings.
Now she is getting married to that boyfriend. They seem super happy, so good for them. All these comments hit too close to home about my previous relationships. I really dont feel like rehashing the past so I will just leave this alone. All I can say is, I need another bad relationship and some more emotional abuse like I need a hole in my head. I think I will pass. It appears that of all the kinds of breakup pain that are out there, this must be one of the worst.
A hard article for me to read too. Instead of being angry about it, I felt sorry for the new woman as I knew what her relationship will be like… Constantly comparing to the ex etc. Hannah… You seem wise beyond your years. I probally have kids your age. Good for you, I wish these sites were around when I was younger. I think because I got into therapy so young I knew I needed time between relationships to clear my head. My problem was I can quite comfortably let that extend to a tad too much time!
LOL All good though. Much rather be taking my time for all the right reasons than go into a relationship wanting someone else to meet unmet needs I really need to meet for myself. I want one because it will enhance all of those things which I will already have within myself. PS Just call me the tortoise of BR! I met my first love again after 20 years. Because we lived on different continents to that time, we started mailing and did skype for month! When I came finally back to Europe and we met, it felt like a dream come true!
I was so in love- and so he seemed to be, too. I was so much in love, but although unsure, because everything went so fast fast forwarding and future faking as I know now!
I was shocked. But it was true! I found her on facebook and he quickly moved in with her. Three weeks after our reunion! Some time later I learned, that he had not been divored, that he was still married! Actually he lived a normal family- life with his wife, while he charmed me- only beeing separeted from her and his kids during the week, because of his work.
His wife texted me on facebook, that their marriage split up the day after he met me and she found out! See, this is why I hold ACs accountable for causing so much suffering. This guy begged you to give up your life and move to another country… all to stroke his massive ego.
They prey on vulnerable people, just like any con artist. When we made first contact, I lived in the US for a year. During this year we grew close again, we made Skype every day and he told me that he was only waiting for me to come back to Europe and that he wanted a relationship with me.
He never waited for me- alone and divorced He was married all the time and his wife had no clue! Thank you all for sharing your stories, time and advice!!! My Narc husband left me on my Birthday have secured a relationship before he left me. Left me on several other occasions for other women, only to come back crawling again. He is a seriel overlapper and I feel sory for this woman because eventually she will find out what he is like.
This has been the most abusive relationship I have ever had and after 6 months I am just begining to heal.
My advise to anyone who has experience this is get-out and stay-out. When I was very young 19, 20 I was an overlapper. Fast forwarding and possibly future faking. While dating my last bf, I found out that he had still been seeing on the side his last gf whom he was supposedly broken up with for 4 months and once met me, he cut contact.
I then saw him out with a couple of different girls and found out that he married the third one 9 weeks after he met her. Yep, verifiable. All I can say is, that it all became clear. I dont want to be an overlapper, nor do I want to have anything to do with one. There will be an immediate exit next time I find out that I overlapped some other girl.
This sooo describes my at work AC. He was in some sort of relationshit with a woman miles away while using me to close the attention gap during the week. He also flirts with women at college-wide gatherings when current gf is not there. Nope, no conscience in play there. I understand you and recognise the same feelings by myself. I was too desperate to let him go, I thought maybe the other woman was a pushover, because I took too much time to make a decision concerning moving together within 3 weeks!
I got new expectations in him, because he soon regretted his decision. He started writing me ambiguous and flirty again and dumped the other woman after few month. And thanks to BG I can see him differently… which makes me slowly to feel better… But yes, the thought of having him a love- child with an other woman still hurts in my heart — although my head knows better!
But the connection between head and heart is difficult to make! I desire absolute neutrality towards him…. Marissa why are you putting yourself through this? Have you read Natalies posts about being friends with these men? Not in any form. Go no contact and let him miss you whilst you forge a new life.
Unless you are able to hear about his fantastic new girlfriend and his plans for a future with her and think it is all great then you have no business pretending to be his friend. You are allowing yourself to be an option and it is demeaning. I did this myself, only for a couple of weeks, but it did not end well and I really regret it. Life is so much better being totally NC. I think I stole it from one of the others. Might have been Grace, CC or Rev.
I think it myself whenever I catch myself romanticising about the ex. You know who this guy is — has disrespected you and others — yet you continue to be his friend????
I recall doing an overlap once in my life… in high school. If one is habitually overlapping, one has much bigger issues than jumping from person to person. After reading this post, I realized that The Snake used me as an overlap. And I stupidly remained his friend, not knowing that this was going on. I would like to gather up all these AC, EUM Narcs, Cheaters and poor excuse for men and drive them out to an island somewhere off the coast of Australia and leave them there with a lettuce leaf and a pick axe.
The pain they cause is impossible to measure and I only hope as we evolve further and women become smarter we will see the extinction of these jerks. My recent ex-EUM is a serial overlapper. I have shed my last tear for his award winning performance over 2 years. What an oxygen thief! No no no Puh-lease dont dump them off the coast of Australia.
There are too many there already!!!! He will only sweet talk some poor dolphin to ride on its fin till he gets back to land!!!! Make it a really cold place…like the Arctic where his balls freeze and his dick gets frostbite and he is no more Mr Happy Feet!!!!
This post brings out comments of the most painful experiences…l do hope we seed a better way to next generation of women. My x left me after being together for 8 years and I was devastated. My self esteem dropped to below zero and the pain of the rejection was unbearable.
To look for answers I red pretty much every article about this subject and was lucky to find BR during this voyage. What I wonder about is this. When you say a relationship is not working, what do you mean by that?
It may sound like a stupid question but really. I am convinced that when a person falls in love with someone else it is because they feel a void is being filled. After a couple of traumatic losses in our families in the year prior to him abbandoning me we both felt tired, passive and had a hard time to pick ourselves up.How to Get Your Ex Back if She is Dating Someone Else - 9 Tips
I can immagine that getting attention from another woman gave him a boost of energy and made him feel alive. But does it really say anything about a relationship if someone then leaves after a 3 week crush?
One of the sites I visisted a lot in the beginning was runawayhusbands. I wanted to understand it and get some answers. I thought is was bad being left after 8 years but here were women being abbandoned after 20 years or even 38 years. The men they were with changed over night like a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. When I started reading BR I discovered that I missed several red flags over the years and this has helped me greately.
Does this answer my question if our relationship was not working? Maybe it does. I think this subject keeps me so occupied because if the relationship was the problem I could have maybe fixed it but if it is him I could not have. I want to stop doubting myself and start to feel stronger to be able to trust, respect, care and love again. Any idiot can fall in love — that is, any idiot can get all the hormones lined up in the right order at the right time and FEEL attached to someone.
It just happens. Actually loving someone though, imo, involves making a conscious choice to BEHAVE as though you love them — to stick by them, care for them, help make their life better, avoid hurting them and to make the relationship work. The hormones wear off. I think that a lot of people me included have fallen into the trap of thinking that love is a feeling that wafts around, floats down on the passive you and then sticks around making you feel good for the rest of your life.
The people who have the loving marriages manage it, I think, because they ACT as though they love their partner, even when it would feel much nicer to go off with someone fresh and new.
Does that sound right? Well put. I just spent a few days with a friend who has been in a LDR for the last 5 years and is very happy and contented and they are planning to move in together at some unclear point maybe. She loves him and thinks he is great and she is lucky to have him.
I dumped my girlfriend and now she is dating someone else
While catching up, subject of my last EUM came up and the fact that there was very possibly an overlap with his ex when we first met and how I now think that that was the first flag where I should have flushed. She says I am oversensitive, after five years with the guy she is still holding on to her ex lovers number in case her boyfriend leaves her and she told her boyfriend that if he ever has a one night stand not to tell her, she would rather not know.
I am speechless. I am truly baffled how anyone can have that attitude, and people do. Talk about difference in values.
Sunny…I think falling in love does NOT fill a void or an empty hole. In order to truly love, both people need to be whole, healthy, complete in themselves. My ex did this to me two months ago, after he played perfect BF for my bday weekend, 4 days later, he was out w someone else… He didnt know I knew, so I left him that day I knew he was going to be w her.
Natalie, thank you. I am so grateful for BR, that this site and articles have been so enlighting and interesting, helping me put a very debilitating, dysfunctional relationshit behind me.
I see him for exactly who he is, and has always been. I learned some very valuable lessons… For that I am grateful. I get that. But, I know what he was about, his character, lack of integrity and kindness…. I care about the next one in MY life.
When you see the situation for what it is, and see these kind of people for who they are lacking integrity, morals, good character traits you wont give a damn what happens to them. And i absolutely trust my judgement. I am thankfully quite a different woman than I was a year ago. My thoughts and perspectives, very different.
I also read most of the articles on this site. Helped tremendously. I look back at the guy who overlapped me with another girl 6 years ago. He dates a lot. He must have dated dozens of women since, and none stuck around. None became the girlfriend — it always ended after a few months of him being unwilling to commit.
He remained the same now with receding hairline thougheven though the woman by his side changed. It took me a long while to move on, and I hardly think about him anymore. When I do, I realize he must be very lonely and miserable to lead that life. We still have a few shared friends. Too many separated guys are out there looking to date when they should be getting therapy, climbing a mountain, doing yoga, anything but dragging some poor woman into the picture to deal with their emotional baggage.
I was asked out recently by a separated guy, and I told him about my policy. Here is the response I got, which was a grown-up one. But it begs the question, Why did he think it was ok to attempt to waste my time? Overlapping is just plain selfish. Slowly i am emotionally detaching myself from the ex. Hope to see you at other Meetups. I unfortunately got caught up with an overlapping separated man also.
Big mistake. He was just going from one woman to another and within only TWO months of leaving his house, was hot and heavy with the woman he dumped me for and seeing at the same time. Damn, he should have been juggling NO relationships, but getting therapy and spending some serious alone time with himself instead. At least I tried to be discreet and not let anyone know we were together until I figured out what was happening with us. Thank God I did, because at least nobody here in town or at work knows I was involved with this creep!
Sadder, The guy sounds like an insecure loser in desperate need of a mid-life ego stroke. That type of person most likely never knew how to be a caring partner in any relationship, never mind their mid-life desperate-to-be-young relationships.
Imagine how she must feel? You dodged a bullet. I used to go from relationship to relationship, never overlapping, but never taking more than a month or two till I dove into the next one. I have turned down several men who were obviously problematic. That was easy. Thanks Miss B. More work to do, clearly. That must have been enormously humiliating for her, especially in a small town like this.
Right on Miss Bliss! We met start of Feb and I ended it on July 4. Uh…what the what? He even had the nerve to suggest that my wariness was the reason he was behaving warily! Stay away! If they truly care about you, they will not want to put you through the last death throes of their marriage. They will not place you directly in the line of fire.
Doing otherwise is a HUGE red flag of selfishness and emotional air-bagging. Thank you Natalie for describing it so succinctly and aptly. It was my first and last time tussling with a separated man. Or ever will. They think about themselves. We all make mistakes… People who care about humanity and are good people, make mistakes, have regrets and try to turn things around, learn from those mistakes… So we can live with integrity and be authentic, not just for us, but for those around us.
And they do it they do it well, btw… They know how to play a good game over and over again… And have no problem doing it to others at the same time.
I broke up with my boyfriend and now he's dating someone else. it'd be disrespectful towards his new girlfriend to actively pursue him again. Don't get your hopes up though; after all, you dumped him and he has moved on. . If why you broke up with him is bad, then she will figure him out and break up. My ex(who I dumped) is now seeing someone else it's making me want her I think my current gf is a rebound though at first she had all the. Some people start something else and then have to find a “good moment to Whoever they overlapped with may feel flattered now and enjoying the .. The current boyfriend was not an overlap and is the best relationship to date. There was someone in my life who I treated terribly and she finally stood.
There is a very good book about these points called People of the Lie by Scott Peck. This is so true. I write about psychopaths and provide survivor support to those who have been so victimized. They simply cannot imagine that all are NOT good. This is foundational for many survivors, because society and religious backgrounds perpetuate the notion that there is good in everyone. Psychopaths get away with what they do because she is unable to see him for what he is.
This idea that all are good, in my opinion, is the hardest to overcome and in which to act on in getting out of the relationship. What is so frustrating for me is that psychopaths KNOW this. They know she is easily duped into believing that somehow there is good in him and that he is incapable of the atrocities that he commits and the harm he causes.
When we have empathy and we believe all are good, it is so hard to convince a survivor that what the psychopath is doing to her is nothing less than evil and without conscience. Sometimes, that naivete is the only thing that keeps her victimized, yet in my experience, is the hardest belief system to break.
Confused Yep, my ex pushed me down the stairs, landed me in hospital twice, the injury will dog me for life, as will the scars, he choked me until I passed out. And my next boyfriend hurt me even more! From someone who went through abusive, I related and understand how difficult it is. There ARE other ways. Friends, family, the law, shelters, etc. The justification cheater makers are unbelievable this unfortunately includes women. I find the whole act of cheating vile. Cheating damages everyone.
The person cheating the most and it destroys the person cheated on. I have first hand experience here. You self esteem plummets and soul dies a little. You deserve to be happy. I understand how you feel, I really do. Adultery is not the only sin an abuser commits. There are red flags missed when marrying someone like this a whole lot of overlooking very BAD behaivor prior to a revelation or discovery of cheating out of an abuser.
Having been married to a lying, cheating, manipulative psychopath is not exactly a source of pride for me. K Agreed. Nat does blow the overlappers behaviour out of the water but we take responsibility too. Not by blaming ourselves for being over lapped or others for overlapping or comparing ourselves to others. We take responsibility for our own lives and behaviour, and looking down on others does not help us do that.
It,s a distraction. As for sin, let him who is without cast the first stone. All the woman,s accusers left, one by one starting with the oldest. If you,re older maybe you,re more aware of how you,ve fallen short. Or you,ve just had more time for screw ups! God forgives me and if he forgave my ex i would be happy ish. What a man or a woman thinks of me is not even on the scale compared to that.
Of course it,s taken me a long time to get here and i understand the transitional and necessary period of anger, unforgivenesss, pain but it,s not the plan to stay in that place. Maybe they won,t. And that,s okay. It,s only my own standing before God I need be concerned about. I has to do with the reality that you must see before your eyes and calling it for what it is. Hope it helps with keeping things in perspective. It was not intentional, not something I was seeking but I think it actually did more good than harm.
I think the reason I was so vulnerable and willing to put up with his crumbs was my loneliness. I went out with a friend later that night and we wound up meeting some of her friends for a late-night dinner. One of their friends was a gorgeous, single, Frenchman!
He was charming, attentive, considerate, fun and debonair. My current EUM would never do anything remotely thoughtful like that. Meeting this man right at that pivotal time was a godsend and gave me the opportunity to compare. I suddenly saw that a man could be polite, generous and even romantic by pulling the chair out for me, walking on the right side of the road and taking special care by putting a good foot forward.
I tried to end it with the EUM. I even told him about the Frenchman and how he treated me well. How it made me feel as a woman and a person. How his lack of care pissed me off because it made me vulnerable to do something with someone else. I felt set up by his lack of actions to be swept away when providence intervened. That made me mad! He said enough for me to warily give him another chance.
I should have booked. We continued on life support for another couple of weeks until he pulled another craptastic stunt in front of his son. In all that time the Frenchman pursued me but I did not return his interest.
I stayed the course until I finally had enough! Happy Independence Day to me! A couple of days later the Frenchman contacted me not knowing about the split and asked me out yet again. I accepted. I felt weird and awkward. The Frenchman was like a breath of fresh air. He was lovely and dear. He also wanted arm candy. Met a guy of all places in jury duty. We were in the same room, got to chatting and discovered we were neighbors, worked in the same industry and had crossed paths peripherally.
By the end of the day we exchanged numbers. Frenchie was in the land down under and I was soon having coffee with a fellow juror. We dated until it became clear all he was willing to offer was a booty call…got to say he was great in the sack yet another quality EUM lacked and worth a few rounds but after a couple of months I lost interest.
Me being my drunk self said okay instead of calling my loving girl to come get my drunk ****. So now it's 1 week after this, 3ish weeks after the break up, she . It's obvious that you hurt your girlfriend by making references to her illnesses . man find someone else more interesting or attractive, etc, etc, etc. It doesn't make the pain any less but I know deep in my heart that from seeing a licensed therapist (a doctor can refer you to someone qualified). Why are you thrown for a loop by the news that she is dating others? Also, it's not as if she stole the great chemistry you shared, and is now enjoying that. My girlfriend broke up with me after six months because she can't forget her I've been going out and trying to meet someone else, but the truth is that I'm three months now, we've been texting and calling – and she's instigated it half the time. She starts seeing you, but, because she hasn't seen her old.
Frenchie came back but I never saw him again. I never promised anything or became exclusive with these men. I simply dated. For me, it was a save. I was disappointed by both men but for different reasons.
I had more stuff to work on. I did not purposely seek to overlap. It was a blessing that dovetailed with finding Natalie. Then there are those who by turns of fate find themselves meeting someone at an opportune moment that gives them clarity.
I seriously doubt the longevity of these relationships when they do happen, but I suppose anything is possible. It was not with any intent that I met 2 men straight away. They had fun, no harm, no foul. No one got hurt or led on. Strangely enough, I had the opportunity to overlap after the juror with yet another guy. Went NC. I made a list of the qualities I want, deal breakers, and made a conscious decision to go it alone for a while.
Natalie has cleared my head, shielded my heart and many ladies on here such as Grizelda make me feel supported and safe to express my thoughts. Then my car got towed. A man who happens to be friends with one of my neighbors comes up to his truck and sees me there shaking like a leaf.
I told him what happened and he immediately made phone calls, took control of the situation and offered to help me out. Just because. Both men went to DMV the next day, got my car out of impound, and even refused to let me buy them lunch! Am I in shock? Am I doubtful? I apologize for the length of this. I just want to say many thanks to Natalie and all of you. If you took the time to read this, I thank you for that too. Have a wonderful Thursday in the UK and elsewhere.
All my love and support!! I know that a few days in is too early to say that I hope it works out but… I hope that he at least restores your faith in the elusive Good Man! And I think that I run the risk of distorting my perception. The quantity vs. This site is invaluable. These posts are so invaluable to me because I learn so much about myself and amazingly, it helps to clarify my boundaries and what I am willing and not willing to do now.
I see it over and over again. Even a good man. Anon — Okay, you got me there. When I wrote that I had just kicked all 4 men to the curb for various reasons and was in a calm stillness little did I know before the storm. I consciously made a decision to not date for a while and I still think that applies. I usually go long stretches years because very few men approach me. The upgrade attitude is almost always on the table and I have to work really hard not to let that suck out my spirit.
I am enjoying the interest though. A decade of that made me emotionally anorexic. If nothing else, I feel desirable, that I do have options and if this is just a brief merry-go-ride, I need to hold on to the knowledge that a man can want me and want to do right by me.
I love being single and drama-free.
Good luck to those of you who worry day to day when your man will slip up and break your heart. Me too. I actually wonder if in the UK there are any men who are not mentally unsound, control freak, selfish assclowns. I find this site incredibly helpful to me in my own recovery. I needed this. My ex is the mother of all assclowns.
He overlapped me with a new gf when our son was 3 months old. He broke up with me without a valid explanation and just said things are not working out.
We had already started plans on getting married. A week later he had pictures all over FB of him and a new chick who I had been suspicious of and who he had said was just a friend. A month later he proposes to her and the new gf is now flashing her ring all over social media and posting pictures of them happy together. They are both not my friends on FB but we have mutual friends so its hard to avoid. Word has it they are getting married next year. My son is 6 months old and the EUM ex still insists on being in his life and sees him once in a while and helps with support.
Im going through a difficult time and I do not know how to initiate NC while we share a son, so Im forced to have this assclown in my life forever. Worst thing, I still love him. He has a right to see his child, but on your terms and only if he honours the arrangements. If he wants to see his kid then he can put the welly in. This is utter codswallop. What happened was that he was too much of an immature and emotionally stunted little boy to be able to cope with the responsibility and difficulties of having a child, and he dealt with that by finding himself an easier situation.
You want to be modelling a positive relationship and one day you will be. Lots of hugs for you and the baby xxxx. PS The most important thing that you can give your child — far far more important than a father figure — is an upbringing with an emotionally healthy and coping mother. That has helped me so much more.
This site is awesome. I know it really needs for me to have a thick skin but with your advice I believe Im a step further into happier land. Thick skin schmick schkin.
My Ex is Already Dating Someone Else
I know this because if I can get there then anyone can. Grizelda, I really enjoyed your post. With overlappers it is definitely an ego thing. So much so they lose the ability to empathize. And that a previous or different woman will fix their inner turmoil.
Real, lasting change starts from the inside and permeates outward. Also people women do this too in dating are not automobiles to be discarded and traded up. Natalie, Jennifer, Rosie: You all pretty much summed up my last ex. It took me a very long time to get over her.
I was her overlap. She did a geographical, moved clear across the pond, told me her relationship was over. I waited a few months to get to know her before it became romantic. I wanted to make sure she was out of that relationship. We hung out as friends, she kept telling me it was over.
An attraction grew, I acted on it when I finally believed she was out of her relationship. Because she was in a new country, I figured she really was single now. Yeah, there were red flags, but she was so…. Even though I knew something was wrong, I still thought she would pick me. This being overlapped, felt like being cheated on, and used.
I know a lot of you str8 women feel used by men for sex sometimes. This woman used me for sex, and to buffer her loneliness. To help her establish a new home in a new country, her business, to feel connected to her new life. She threw me away when she was done. She is rotten to the core. I felt so bad for so long, and I guess I still do a little but nothing like I used to. This woman feels entitled to use others, she was very vain. I now understand why she moved to another country. I was just a device, I was just what was needed to help her work her plan out.
It was really awful! I stuck my head in the sand and let it all happen. I paid dearly for this. She ended up with what she planned, she was a very good planner. Thanks to BR, I will never ever ever be involved with a shady using cheating lying excuse for a woman.